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The base plate needs smother edges and not stick out so far. The factory one is smooth and tight. The metal mag loads and feeds good. But its loose , rattles and falls out. So caring it in holster is unreliable. Chances are the mag will be lost by the end of the day. This mag holds 30+ rounds. its more important that the mag be there instead of how fast you can do a mag swap at the range. If you can not take care of a target in 30 rounds another mag will not help. The point of heal release is to pull the mag out. Not fall out. Possible remedies - stronger release spring. shorten the mag to its intended length, tighten the mag with some deformities in the steel near the base plate. no to mention two mag are as much as the hole gun.
I just received my mags. I have upgraded my PMR30 with every part made by MCARBO and have been satisfied with them all. These not so much!! The body of the mag is great, much better than stock. The baseplate however leaves a lot to be desired. The mag catch is rounded compared to the stock flat edge leaving the mag feeling sloppy in the gun. There is a gap left between the baseplate and the grip, not to mention the edges on the back of the baseplate to catch on everything under the sun. I feel like MCARBO was on the right track with the magazine body and completely missed the mark with the baseplate. I would have gladly sacrificed the extra round to not have the magazine hanging out at the bottom. Very disappointed especially at the price point. At this point I feel like returning them and waiting for the updated version, because there will need to be one.
Purchased two of these for my PMR30, what an improvement over the OEM Kel-Tech magazines. These are highly polished, fit the gun perfectly and a breeze to load. I also purchased the speed loader which works perfectly. While loading only pull the loader down enough to insert the next load, allow the loader to come up a little and it aligns the shells , there is a small tab on the inside back wall of the magazine which divides the shells from left and right. I took this to the range and fired off 90 rounds flawlessly. I also have all the MCARBO PMR30 parts installed. This gun is now my goto for carry, with 31 rounds available and dependability proven. Definitely recommend purchasing the new stainless magazines. I have 50 years of manufacturing background and this is a quality product.
Way better loading than OEM, the speed loader really helps loading and consistency. Tried it with my PMR30, started with 10 rounds, then 15, 20 and 30 rounds. Spring comes in slightly stiff but it not an issue with the speed loader, probably helps with the feeding. Magazine is also super polished, feels pretty much like a mirror. Overall a good magazine
I think the magazine is far superior to the original I gave it 4 stars because of the price point. I bought two at 75.00 dollars and you show them reduced from a 100 dollar level. I wouldn't buy any at that level and figure 2 clips are enough at the 75.00 level. However I have 8 original clips and like your product so well I would replace them all @ a 50 or even 60 dollar level. I really appreciate the upgrades to the PMR & CMR i now have 2 guns that are are now 100% reliable but from my perspective I question Why Kel-Tec doesn't adopt your fix doing the math 500-600 for the purchase,250 for the clambering fix, and 159.00 dollars for the 2 new clips. It put the guns at around the 1000 dollar level, which I would have gladly paid to avoid the 4 year long frustration. Now I understand that mabye the small volume of sales justifies your price. So my thanks to your company for the magazines and the fixes, evidently your company cares more than kel-tec.
So, I like this magazine. Definitely an improvement over the original, however it did not fix my feed problems completely - improved yes. I have determined the feed problems are a reflection of how the magazine itself is loaded as these 22 mag rounds can get a little "out of stack" in the magazine causing a feed problem. Now that I know what to look for, this magazine comes with the side slots (windows) and allows you to see if you have loaded the magazine correctly, and where a problem is going to occur. To correct the feed stack the new speed loader allows you to manipulate the spring and ammo stack in the magazine to correct it. You could not do this with the old mag, you were pretty much at the mercy of the magazine and would have to unload the mag one round at a time to find where your stack had bunched up. What I have described works, not perfect but a lot less mis-feeds. I chucked the old mags and the MCarbo speed loader after I discovered this. Just so you know MCarbo upgraded my P30 with all improved parts before I tried these new mags.
II wanted this to work so badly. My CMR-30 periodically doesn't strip a round off the top of the mag. Tap rack restores operation. MCarbo's enhanced mag release reduced, but did not eliminate, this problem. The steel mag fits looser than the plastic factory mags. The frequency of failures to feed increased with the MCarbo mag and some of the jams were crooked in the magwell, causing a full stoppage that tap/rack would not fix. Some of the casings also were dented in the jam. Best performance was 8 in a row without failure. I fired 40 gr Maxi Mags, 50 Federal Game Shock and 45 gr Hornady FTX. All experienced failures. I was using MCarbo's mag loading accessory.
To make it easy I load the first round that that makes it easy to catch the follower. AND IT WORKS PERFECTLY
For context: my PMR30 has all of Mcarbo's internal parts installed, including the mag catch & feed ramp. My feed ramp is mirror polished. Just received today, so haven't been to the range. First impression, it's a thick gauge of steel, not cheap and thin. The baseplate is 5/8" thick. 3/8" of that hangs below the lowest point of the of the grip @ the mag release. For only +1 capacity, losing the flush fit by this much doesn't make sense to me. My gun does not want to strip rounds. FTF each time I rack, even taking care to make a full extension slingshot. This isn't just the first couple rounds. I've cycled a bunch through the chamber and it's this way for every one. Maybe when I shoot it it'll run. Again my feed ramp is polished & my gun is clean and greased. First loading it the follower and spring got stuck at round 27. Suddenly the magazine was full of loose rounds that I had to shake out. Couldn't get them to unstick in spite of manipulating the follower, which is accessible from both sides typical of 22 mags. With 9 rounds left to shake out it suddenly sprung free and moved back into place. I reloaded and it didn't happen again. Haven't unloaded and reloaded to test further. I think this needs improvement, especially at this price point.
So my mag did have a little wiggle however was quite secure. So super easy fix 100 mph tape for the win.
It’s a great magazine, a lot better than KEL-TEC. However it has its issues. Cons 1) the lip catch on the back of mag doesn’t exactly match the mag catch on CMR 30. So it’s not as secure as factory mag. It’s a bigger issue but you can fix it by using some epoxy. 2) you have to cycle the bolt a few times without ammo to get it to wear in so it will feed flawlessly. 3) it’s a little bit sharp on the feed lip. Not really a big deal. Pros 1) it’s so polished it’s nice 2)you don’t need a speed loader just pull the tap down with your thumb 👍🏻. Easy to load. 3)it feeds 100%!!! 4) it feels highhhhh quality!
Used them first time last week and only had one misfeed out of 100. Much etter than the plastic ones that came with the pistol Expensive but I think worth it. It was frustrating with the plastic ones misfeeding aot every 5 ot 6 feed.
So, these mags are a huge fix to most of the issues going on with the firearm. However, it is a new mag and you will get jamming and binding in these magazine if you don’t brake it in properly! The problem being that the springs are new and way too stiff. With that said, they need to be this stiff at the beginning so that after they’re broken in the spring tension will be the correct tolerance to feed all 30 rounds properly. Advice: to start with just load 10-12 rounds at a time while taping the mag down on the side of the mag, between 5th round. After firing the magazine with only 10-12rds doing that 10x then you should be able to graduate to 20-25rds and follow the same steps. Shoot the magazine at least 10-15x’s w/ only 20-25rds. Then the spring should be breaking in now to were you can load all 30rds at a time. But you’re going to have to purchase bulk 22WMR and a range membership with a whole lot patience. It’s going to take some time and firing rounds to break in the magazines. I highly recommend at purchasing 2-4 mags for starting with a little bit of patience and a whole lot of Repetition for this magazine. I’d rather have these mags than not have them and need them! You won’t see a huge Instantaneous improvement, but you will see a huge improvement over “an along of time.” I did, but again this isn’t an instant going to be instant gravitas. You may get that joy of being able to extract and insert the mag without irritation instantly but until you break in the magazines correctly you’re still going to experience smashed and cycling issues with the rounds.
Picked one up with a speed loader. It’s a breeze to load with it, I kind of struggled to load the keltec one. Shot a couple of full mags with it, definitely recommend.